$10k+/month - would any ESPs accept bizopp?

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    Long story short, I want to send bizopp emails with emails like "make $1k/day using this system"

    List is 100% opt-in, very low spam rate

    Volume is 1 million/day

    Willing to pay $10,000 or more per month

    Are there any legit ESPs out there who would allow bizop emails? Can you recommend any? The account won't get spam complaints, I just want someone who'll allow aggressive bizopp language.
     
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    If the data is clean and the complaints are low, why not warm up IPs yourself? It would be rather trivial to do such and you would save countless dollars.
     
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    Because the list is mostly freemail (hotmail, gmail, etc) and it performed amazingly well with a big name ESP before the account was banned for bizopp content. We tried using our own IPs and the handful of spam complaints were enough to get it in trouble, even if they were only 2-3 per 100,000 emails. As you know, ESP infrastructure just has better deliverability for many reasons, and I'd rather pay $10,000+ to not have to worry about anything.

    Ideally, I'd love to find an ESP who'll accept a client that will give them no trouble and $120k+/yr, they just have to be okay with saying whatever we want in our emails. I'm thinking maybe one of the smaller ESPs would want the business? Any recommendations?
     
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    What ESP were you at where sending 30 million emails a month was only 10k?
    When you tried your own ips, did you segment the data at all? By segmenting I mean sending to your most responsive engaged subscribers first. Then work in the less engaged subscribers while bringing up volume.. From my experience if you have responsive data and low complaint rates you can maintain positive delivery even to the top free email providers.
    However, you can't take a few new IPs and expect to immediately deliver high volumes in a short period of time.
     
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    can't tell you which esp because we had an inside man, but it was a known esp that charges based on list size, and list size was around 500,000 so the monthly cost was only $5,000. i'm willing to go a lot higher than that.

    segmentation - yes. nick you may be right but i am really just looking for a low-maintenance and low-risk solution. if i can find an esp that would just accept this, i never have to worry again. with private ips there's a higher risk and lower tolerance for complaints etc

    SG my goal is not to save on cost, i just want to get on an esp that sends out millions and blend into their traffic and never worry

    any suggestions appreciated
     
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    I figured there was some other factor that played into what you were doing.
    I don't think you'll be able to accomplish the same level you had previously with just one ESP. I doubt you'll be able to find an ESP that would allow that volume and non-compliant content.
     
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    we can hook you up, send me a PM
     
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    try ongage.com
     
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    If you have clean data, you should use your own server/setup to send emails. much cheaper, and everything is under your control. you don't need to be worried about
    getting suspended. send me a PM if your interest I may have something that will interest you.
    Thanks
     
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    PM us for your requirement. You would be happy for long time.
     
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    I wonder what the FTC would say about a software provider that remotely wipes a server of a customer running a very old version of the software provider's software...
     
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    use your own set up and save extra $10k in your bank!
     
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    You can take the risk of mailing them - if you know how not to leave a trail. That goes from the domain registrar all the way to your affiliate network. If you don't, then don't screw with the FTC.
     

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