Hotmail ghosting emails?

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  1. jbizzle

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    I noticed that around the 16th that Hotmail seems to be ghosting emails.<br> <br> I am seeing 250 OK response but the emails are not being delivered. <br> <br> Clicks are down about 95%!<br> <br> <br> Is anyone else seeing this?
     
  2. getstarted

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    It has always been that way
     
  3. mx10

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    this is a way that hotmail essentially blacklists ips, you could apply to have the block removed on the postmaster page
     
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    They axed alot of blocks last week... So your ips were probably some of those.
     
  5. DaMadHatter

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    Supposedly this is not working as effectively as in the past. We have heard this from many clients, including some of the bigger operations in the mailer space. If they are having issues, it's assured many of the smaller and mid market mailing operations are. This has been going on roughly a month now. Many hotmail guys scrambling for ip's that inbox.
     
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    hotmail cracked down in august and everyone has been struggling since, but since this guy isnt familiar with hotmail blackholing im assuming he has a small number of ips sending reasonable volume which is the sort of thing they will address through the postmaster support email
     
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    The O.P. has a fair number of IP's if memory serves. Although he could also have some /24's and /27's spread in the wind.

    That being said, many clients who have IP's many different places seem to be having this issue. I think, as you mentioned, it started a few months back. But it's apparently become more brutal in the past 3-4 weeks. A lot of new inquires with people looking for hotmail ip's. The issue is not in finding clean unblocked space. It seems the problem is in the INBOXING part of the equation. A lot of stuff being flagged and junk boxed.

    Either way, hopefully HM gets resolved soon. A lot of mailers are being effected, including the big guys.
     
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    well we have seen a large amount of IP blocks that have become blackholed on HM as of last week.. Is it the volume on the ips or the volume on the classes?

    can really understand how they blackholed entire /20's of ISP's too.. Seems pretty aggressive
     
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    Based on what various sized clients are reporting, from ISP's all over the world, this is effecting almost everyone. Some of them have single /24's and others larger allocations. But it seems right now HM is blackholing space, and their removal process has not been as timely or effective. Some of the bigger mailer/marketing companies reported that in the past, they could easily just get blocks removed via their online thing previously mentioned my mx10. However, right now that also does not seem to be working.

    If it were just smaller guys with limited resources only having the issues, you could better narrow some of this stuff down. However, with some of the bigger guys, who have a whole team in-house having some of the same issues, it would appear to be industry-wide at this point in time. Thus far, it does not seem to have been resolved.
     
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    yes i'm well aware of exactly what is going on and one of the people gutted by it. pretty sure this is like the yahoo links, hotmail has no interest in "resolving" it.
     
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    hotmail just blackholed an entire /20 3 days after it was turned on for me, i'm trying to figure out now if this was a one time event last week or if this is the new normal next
     
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    they did the same 12 hrs after i started a new /24 sunday and it was blackholed by monday
     
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    Hopefully there is a solution on the horizon in the near future. Right now HM seems to be junk boxing only.

    This would appear to be the new "normal".

    :fight:
     
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    its not even junking.. thats woudl be a start.. its blackholing almost everything.. no delivery! the logs say delivered and same msg as it always says..
     
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    hotmail has been like this for years, i can get myself blocked in 10 minutes

    the issue is really that the netspace you talk of being blocked is probably not swipped up properly, if they see mail coming from one single allocation that is /20, they will consider the rep the same for the whole /20

    so if you can, swip up into /27's and smaller allocations and never jump around with the same mail to other allocations
     

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