PMTA Frontend

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  1. Fun4uoc

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    There have been a few discussions here on frontends for PMTA but nothing thats really been too helpful.

    I have a buddy who is looking to get a halfway decent frontend coded, or at least one thats already been done and I'm unsure of where to send him.

    Does anyone here have one that they've coded, or can point me in a direction to get one done. I'm a little wary of the freelancer sites but will consider it if someone here can recommend someone in particular?

    Thanks
     
  2. noobking

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    i heard permicity is a good one and you can buy them from multiple places
     
  3. jellyfish

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    There are several people on this forum that have built one. Myself included..

    What are your friends needs? Budget? Why would he build one from scratch rather than licensing a commercially available one?
     
  4. Fun4uoc

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    He would prefer to have one built vs. a commercially available one, unless there is one out there that we haven't seen yet.

    Sent you a pm jellyfish.
     
  5. Fun4uoc

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    Yeah I have permicity but the last time I looked at it, it was a mess.
     
  6. nymailer

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    you're looking at 20-40k for a viable solution, and months of coding. Then you have to support it.
    better off leasing a system that's out there already.
     
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    lol 40k for a pmta front end? dude you're fucking smoking crack. maybe if you don't have a fucking clue as to what you want and hire a bunch of morons that dont' know what the fuck they're doing.
     
  8. Fun4uoc

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    That's why I'm asking here, not a road I want to go down by blindly hiring a freelancer.
     
  9. nymailer

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    I want to hire Indians off of odesk to make it, there's about 5-10 guys on here that have blown 5 grand plus to make a systems and have either failed or come away with systems that sucks balls. If you want a entry level system you can make it for a lot less, if you want to hire someone who actually knows what Pmta is, you're looking at 20-40k for a complete system that manages servers etc.

    also you run a lot of risk of the developer quitting, running into stumbling blocks and not being able to finish the system.
     
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    I paid a highly skilled buddy about 12k to put together something. I used it to make a decent clip, moved on from that to something greater.
     
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    If you are hiring a random contractor to build you software you'll never know what you gonna get.
     
  12. Fun4uoc

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    Exactly, again, that's why I was posting here first, in hopes of maybe getting something that someone had already done that they have outgrown and are no longer using, or at least maybe a referral of someone competent enough to do the job.

    I've talked to some, "developers" at the freelancer sites, and all I have to say is that's a scary fucking place...
     
  13. nymailer

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    Not, the months you lose waiting for a platform to be done. Those are months you lose revenue. Also you have to hope the developer sticks around. You ever try to have a new developer work on someone else's old code?
     
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    You can use whatever you're currently using while you wait so you don't have to stop mailing while it's being developed. Honestly, if the developer is worth a shit he can pick up the code base and work on it*. Companies do hire, fire, and have developers leave all the time.
    I agree with you for the most part though. For most people it's a bad idea to have a custom frontend developed.

    *That's assuming the code base isn't complete garbage.
     
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    So many assumptions right here! Unless you've written code and built products before for most people here hiring a developer is a roll of a dice.
     
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    I can think of a lot of situations where you are better off leasing. At a certain cost point leasing makes more sense. Yea you'll lower your overheard if you pay it off but there is an opportunity cost for that money also. I don't think its fair to say "Youre never better off leasing." and "Whatever the cost". Its relative to your options.
     
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    Why front end of PMTA while command line console and VI can do everything ? I could help you to setup PMTA for 200K deliveries in an hour.
     
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    I've been developing in PHP for over 10 years now and I'm currently about to be contract to help develop and manage casino games. So yes, I can write code ;).

    EDIT:

    I've also worked on the front facing websites of some major publications and have done foreign integrations for other major websites.

    Being a great developer with a reputation is fun, because you can pick the good contracts that come your way. I don't have to mail to make six figures a year.
     
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  19. Fun4uoc

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    First of all, 200k an hour isn't shit.

    Second, how do you propose to handle unsub requests, fbl's, bounce processing, etc?

    Third, go fuck yourself...
     
  20. JohnFarrell

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    You can do that all with cli stuff. I do it that way. I have all fbls goto one catchall address, unsubs are wrote to a file, and bounces are parsed by a bash script. I agree 200k an hour isn't much though. You can get PMTA doing millions even with the CLI.
     

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