sources of data

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  1. jones2w21

    jones2w21 New Member

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    Hello all --

    I wanted to ask common sources for data would be? I am not too thrilled about getting scammed, so how would I know I am getting what I want? Certainly asking for a sample is not evidence that a complete list is good, then sender can just send the good ones.

    My goal is revenue of 4k a month, paying about 1k a month for servers/IPs/hosting. Nothing huge. So I am thinking I need to acquire a 1m list? Right? No?

    Other ways are spiders, driving cheap traffic to sign-up sites ...

    So what works best -- buying in bulk and processing down that data, or investing in the time it takes to produce quality data from the start?
     
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    If you're just starting out and you need data.. there's really not many options. You can purchase the data or you can find someone willing to share it. If you're a citizen of the great US and A you do not want to scrape/spider mailing data.

    You can't judge revenue just based on list size.. It's more list quality, offers , and mailing software.. If you have the time and money to setup your own sites to gather data, that would be the best route.
     
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    jones2w21 New Member

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    Thanks -- makes sense.
     
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    Should we even allow posts openly discussing "spiders"? This is not Black Hat World, maybe we need a disclaimer on the signup page or something.

    /facepalm
     
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    lol ever since I left that BHW place, I haven't heard about "spider" for a while and never look back, but tbh. All the time and expenses that you put down to setup, config, learn, scraping, etc, to spam, will not worth with a fraction of what you will gain by doing whitehat. I learned it a hard way after 4 months scratching my head with that forum, the reason? There are too many people pointing to all kind of different direction and in reality they just heard about it from somebody else and none of them actually making the kind of money the ppl from this forum bringing in everyday.
     
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    First thing. Just because the data is good doesnt mean YOU will be successful with it.

    Second. You could ask for references, say your a member of this forum so preferably clients that belong to this forum. Then you can look at their previous posts, send them a pm and judge that way.

    Buying a list is an exercise in trust.

    Depending on quality a list of 1mm may or may not get you to the 4k a month point. Are you looking to mail TLD, GI, Cables? What is the source of this data?
     
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    Of course if you are buying data ask for a sample to test before purchasing any significant quantities. Ideally test multiple data sources against the same test offer (preferably one you know has worked in the past using decent data), so for example if you get 5 list samples of 5,000 each to test, you will quickly get a good feeling for whether or not the data sources are good. Likely they all won't be but one or more may shine.
     
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    In addition to the above comments, make sure that you scrub any new data with one of the main hygiene companies - even if the vendor says that they scrubbed it. The last thing you want to experience on your first foray into mailing is spamtraps
     
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    arbydar, I couln't agree more
     
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    Guys thanks for this piece of information even it is too old comment to read but it is helpful..regarding on the scrub process how can i do that one after i purchase the data?
     
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    Contact Impressionwise.

    There are a few who do it, but they are typically the most popular. Some prefer to clean in-house.
     

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