Spam Assasin Score check problem?

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  1. Mak

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    Hello Mailers,

    how to check Spam Assassin score in HTML Creative? How to configure it in outlook?

    Thanks
     
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    Get a hosting account w/someone that runs SA - set up a email address or several, set them up in Outlook, create seed list with these - start dropping - pull your headers and look.
     
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    lol. fuck that. why do it manuel style when you have computers? ~2 hours in development time including creating a virtual machine, installing spamassassin and nginx w/php you could have a web based solution that tests against SA and any plugins you desire.
     
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    True - but I think the benefit of my suggestion is the ability to check your SA scores as you're dropping by hitting your seeds every X number of mails.

    I have a stand alone checker, but I like the idea of using host because ultimately it 'should' be more accurate - or at least as accurate as SA can be. But that's my opinion.
     
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    I think some platform has this feature built in.

    You can refer to this thread for simple method: http://www.mailerforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3007

    if you don't know linux and php, you can use any hosting account with cpanel installed and enable SA. You may want to lower your SA acceptable score to 0.1 so that you can see every creative's score.
     
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    Thanks Its looks easy even a noob like me :)
     
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    Thanks Nichphx; but i am not a techy. Though if you have any link where i can read steps thats would be great for me
     
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    The one I wrote talks directly to spamd, the same daemon that postfix/qmail/sendmail will send messages off to for checking.. It generates the required message headers to make the mail look as if it was sent.. It's nothing like those silly message body checking crap wedged into a list/campaign manager.

    I configured my SA install to update rules every day and run tests against razor. The only benefit of checking while live mail is going out is to see when your URL's end up in URIBL or your content ends up getting added to razor.

    It could be improved upon because I didn't train the bayesian filters.. Those really only help if other rules are hit and your trained bayesian database says it's not spam.. I think the next shit I'll put together is something that will pull from imap/pop3 and dump to a db. That way I could go out and find hosted email w/SA and use those as seeds..

    To get around having to manually read crap in outlook, postfix/qmail/whatever can be configured to forward messages [post-filtering if so desired] to a script. The script would read the message contents from stdin and dump them to a database / flatfile for easier report reading. If you don't want to monkey with configuring the mail server to deliver to a script, you could have it pull via pop3/imap. It's really not rocket science.
     
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    completely agree and I'm glad you touched on Bayesian because I was gonna if didn't. Also re: The only benefit of checking while live mail is going out is to see when your URL's end up in URIBL or your content ends up getting added to razor. - I think for the noobs here (after all - this IS the noob section) the benefit extends beyond this to just plain ol' experience. The exercise of doing this is a good learning tool.

    You're clearly extremely knowledgeable and have killer tech skills - but this might be email 301 when most here are still in mail 101.

    On another note - would love to see what you wrote up.
     
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    It's nothing spectacular. A 5 field form and a class to chat with spamd and parse what it returns. Some enterprising monkey wrote the class and put it on github, saved me a few hours. It combines all of the subjects/froms/bodies and tests each combination against SA, returning a report with scores that you can then export to csv for loading into our glorious beast.

    I put together another app that tests against outlook 2003,2007,2010's included filtering. It grabs a screenshot to show you how it's all rendered too.. That one was a pain in the ass.
     

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