Spam Filters

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  1. LTE

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    Any advice on the ideal amount/type/format of hidden text to insert to trick the spam filters? Such as 25kb of news articles or personal letters split up in this many style tags/divs? Trying to cram more into those GI inboxes.

    My Spam score is usually a 2-3 when I start out.

    Feel free to PM.
     
  2. PepeLePew

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    I don't think there is any rules, just keep adding junk text and test until you hit the inbox.
     
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    Careful with that. Hidden gibberish text has been getting less effective and if someone like Cloudmark catches you, you won't get delisted.
     
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    Hidden text has its purpose (raw data) but don't use it when mailing to your whitelisted servers or all your hard work could be gone overnight.
     
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    Why do you say this? If I don't have this in my html text creatives I get a crazy score for image to text ratio. However, my opt-out link is an image. Either way still interested in hearing your reasoning.
     
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    AOL and Yahoo I know will tear you a new one for this if you're on WL'd ip.. anybody know any other domains specifically where doing this will kill your rep? Is it through a manual review only you can be detected?
     
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    I am not sure but I think they have a system that will randomly check emails. You may be fine for a few days but eventually they will hit your email and you can kiss your IP reputation goodbye. If you are not mailing using a whitelisted box, you can use hidden text. Hidden text works well with GI and as you stated will help with "image to text ratio".
     
  8. LTE

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    Hm ive kept my junk text around 25kb and its still iffy with inboxing, and im thinking anything above 35 is too much.
     
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    cloudmark is easily defeated.. Don't take new ip space and start blasting commercial mail. No amount of junk text will save you.

    As far as stuffing random text into div's, img alts, etc.. I've had varied success. Something that has worked out in the past has been inline images .. generated randomly , base64 encoded..
     
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    This works on more than just Cloudmark. Some very tasty domains label you as either as a spammer, or real mailer, the moment your newsletters begin going out...

    And dat's all I'm gonna say about dat!
     
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    What ratio between newsletters and offers would you recommend then?
     
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    I'd start off with newsletters for the first 24-48 hours on cloudmark. After that it's all feedback based.
     
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    Are you saying that Cloudmark only blacklists you during the first 24-48 hours you mail volume on a new ip?
     
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    From what I have experienced, yes. If you start out with new ips and the first mail they see from you is spammy third party offers, filler text, and the usual garbage.. You'll get slapped. After that period it is feedback based from their recipients.
     

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