The IronClad Diary Thread

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  1. quicknrandom

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    The IronClad Diary Thread

    Hey there Mailer forum!

    It’s QuicknRandom back for some more fun and games. This time I’m posting a diary about my adventures with the Ironclad platform. Starting this week I will be getting set up with this platform and CPA/PPC networks that are integrated within the platform itself. My experience has been very minimal in the emailing scene. Moving from the lowly Interspire mailing software to a legitimate bulk mailer like Ironclad is a large step for me. This forum has given me a ton of information and I’ve learned a lot through reading the threads here. My way of giving back to the forum is this diary and the potentially valuable information it will contain for anyone new to the emailing world. Wish me luck!

    Too lazy to read my intro? Here are the cold hard facts:

    -1 dedicated server from Burst.net (comes with 5 ips) - $99.95/month
    -Iron clad platform – Software that will be handling my mailing
    -Crush Ads network- Network that’s integrated with Ironclad to easily create drops
    -Currently signing up and reviewing Adknowledge agreement
    -100k- Double opt in biz op data from reliable source :)
    -Domains temporarily registered with godaddy but soon to be moved to namecheap for ease with their API

    Game plan:
    One of the best thread on mailer forum is the one available here: http://www.mailerforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=998

    Push Send and mx10 give exactly the advice needed to mail to the GI data. What are you waiting for? READ IT!

    To do list:

    -Familiarize myself with Ironclad platform and how it works from the training video
    - Research tools that can help me monitor my ip space like http://multirbl.valli.org/ (If you know of any other tools, please feel free to post a reply or PM me the link)
    - Buy a /27 allocation of ips to mail from
    - Buy data from sources or possibly encounter a wild revshare
    - Make the monies!

    So how much does all of this awesome stuff cost?
    Ironclad- $600/month
    Server - $99/month
    Data - $?/month
    /27 -$18/month
    domain - $3/day (.info rotated everyday) x30 = $90/month

    $807 is the total for this month

    My budget is $1000 so I have $193 for data but I won't get any good data for that amount...or would I? Stay tuned for the next diary entry titled "QnR and the search for quality data"
     
  2. skrilla

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    Good start, I see you accepted roundys challenge. Be careful with Burst.net, they shut me down after a couple of days and reported months of payments that showed up on my credit report. Look forward to hearing your results.
     
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    I'll toss in some data if you can shot over an accepted GI domain list for Ironclad
     
  4. quicknrandom

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    Thanks for the heads up I'll make sure to monitor burst carefully. Would you recommend any other places to grab up servers?

    I'll talk to my contact at Ironclad and we can work something out with that data. I want to see what damage I can do with the data I got already so it's an authentic noob experience. I won't say no to good data though :)
     
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    I have heard lots of great things about Ironclad, so I am excited to watch this.

    Let us know what we can do and if you need anything. I have already hit up your AM to make sure he takes good care of you and moved your account to weeklies, which will hopefully help your cash flow. =)
     
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    Quick

    I want to applaud you for starting this thread - you will find it will build momentum quickly and you'll get input from many lurkers. We all needed a project to focus on.

    You have a big problem however. Your entire operation looks and feels spammy. I see no mention of RDNS setup, DKIM/DK, SPF, .com sending (brandable) domain(s), etc.

    If you want to rotate .info's just be forewarned you are not doing anything to build reputation and this will be a spammy churn and burn operation, so you will have a huge uphill battle.

    Some Qs for you:

    -The double optin source, if it isnt from you directly, you'll get complaints. Do you know the "brand" they originally signed up for? Can you mail using that brand in your FROMs to keep complaints down?

    -What breakdown domain-wise is in this data? e.g. if it's 80% yahoo/aol/hotmail, you have your work cut out for you. Is it mostly GI? This will help us figure out where you should be focusing on delivery wise...
     
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    As a virgin in the email game, I look forward to seeing how this turns out. Very interested in the tips and tricks you learn and share along the way to help some of us out. Thanks!
     
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    The guys at Ironclad have been EXTREMELY helpful in helping me set up the server and figuring out their platform. It's always refreshing to have help from everyone here. Thanks for the weeklies bump and I'll be sure to run offers when I'm up and ready.
    I’m glad my diary is picking up interest in this community. I’m sorry I was not clear about my set up as I should have been. I put in a support ticket at burst for RDNS that resolves to a .com on the server that is never getting mailed to. There are options in Ironclad that take care of DKIM/ domain keys for me. I’ll look into the spf records as well.

    As for brandable domains, what exactly are you asking? What sort of consequences would be a problem by using the churn and burn method to start?

    I’m not too worried about building reputation as of yet because isn’t GI all about volume anyways? Correct me if I’m wrong. I know the brands that they opted into but I don’t believe I can mail from the brand name.

    The breakdown of the emails looks like this
    [​IMG]

    Mostly GI as you can see.
    I’m more nervous than you can even imagine. I’m here to pave the way for anyone wanting to join the mailing game. Let me know what sort of information you would like for me to post back in my results and I’ll try my best to accommodate.
     
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    Thread moved...
     
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    this smells like anti to me -- I'm scanning those addresses as we speak.

    Wasn't this account "quickandrandom" created by the time "Andy" came in and went psycho ?
     
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    and the noob has PH access now too....
     
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    Heh, let me know what you find on those addresses. Somebody went psycho?

    Don't worry, I won't abuse my power here :) I was told it was a better option to move my thread here instead of having it displayed publicly.
     
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    there are traps in there...

    rockbridge.net
    watertowncsd.org

    ....

    I also found that your oinkhost.com domain and the mail server you're using : )
     
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    I've never had a mailer say no to free data, especially a noob with a budget of $193 for data.
     
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    And here's the noob offering proxies -- I wonder how good those phising attempts really work.


    [​IMG]

    Hax0r ! -- I've seen that around the block...
     
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    removed because of the posts above....... wtf chuck.
     
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    Im not sure whats going on here, or what evidence you guys have this is a true anti, but I did remove his PH access after these posts began circulating and have told him it's an IP conflict... but I'm sure the guy has figured it out by now, though he has yet to sound threatening in AIM to me.

    And again I ask.. what does an anti have to gain by bringing attention to him as a person, and starting a thread like this? I don't buy it.

    I think we're all a touch paranid here, but that's just me.
     
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    threatening how ? -- allow me back in or else ? </kidding>

    Is the guy using proxies to login ?
     
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    Too bad I sent him a PM with info in it that I didn't want an anti to get. [email protected] if he is.
     
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    He will probably NOT know what to do with it anyway -- anti's are not mailers because they dont make it, it's not a matter of choice for them...

    Antis who do make it in mailing, well.... started the haus
     

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