Volomp Yahoo Delivery

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  1. postmaster

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    Can anyone tell me how many emails I can deliver per day to Yahoo using 8 class c's and Volomp software?

    If you don't feel comfortable answering here, please private message me. I really need to know what to expect before investing thousands.

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  2. postmaster

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    By the way, the Volomp sales guy said I could deliver 5-10 million per day using 6 to 8 class c's.

    Is that legit?

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  3. roundabout

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    Anybody promising you Yahoo delivery, let alone 5-10mm per day from 6-8 /24s, is setting you up for an epic fail.
     
  4. PushSend

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    C'mon now Roundy - those numbers could be fairly accurate.....

    if you:

    1. don't care about your IPs getting TS03'd
    2. have the budget to churn n burn C classes every day or two

    :marchmellow:
     
  5. bluehairdave

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    I can also guarantee you 99.9% inbox to yahoo through Icontact but that will only last 1 day and you will be banned.

    Same theory for Volo guys promise i suppose.
     
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    Good luck with that.
     
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    Anything is possible according to any sales guy. LOL
     
  8. postmaster

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    lol You guys really know how to beat down a man's confidence.

    Okay... so I hear PushSendMarketing can deliver decent volume. Can anyone vouch for that?

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    Ive been working with PushSend since January. I never would of got past month one without him. My business has gotten stronger each month because of the training and platform. I don't want to sound to much like a cheerleader but between the data he has provided me, the templates he has given me and taught me how to create and the countless hours he has spent with me on skype I cant give him a higher recommendation...
     
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  10. jpcserv

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    Yahoo Delivery

    Funny thing - When you were first trying to get back in I offered you one of our Robomail Enterprise plus a tunnel ( just bring your ips/isps/some expertise ) and you can mail a gazillion an hour, but you didn't want to hear how tough yahoo would be. Sorry to hijack but couldn't resist, offer still open to anyone else wanting to get started mailing for very little upfront $$ . Robo license can't be sold but just bring your isp/ips and there are all kinds of ways to rev share. I have data will train, can be mo. to mo. and ADK API Good Luck R. with your 5-10 mil yahoo( roundy always tells it like it is) and hope that you are having great success trying to make spam folder. ( There's a rumor around that it is pretty easy now )

     
  11. postmaster

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    JPC, I don't remember those details.

    Here's exact quotes...

    Me: how much volume are you delivering, if you don't mind me asking?
    You: I don't want to tell just yet because it is not a lot

    That's what my chat log says.

    You weren't clear with the offer in question, and you weren't upfront about it.

    Good luck to YOU, and thanks for the sarcasm.. I needed another kick in the balls today.

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  12. roundabout

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    Better a kick in the balls today then you spending a small fortune on this ridiculous promise of yahoo delivery and finding out within the first ten minutes of dropping you've been had.

    The group just saved you a ton of money... on your auto insurance!
     
  13. jpcserv

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    That is not the exact quote, you either forgot or purposely left out the part where I said I was white listed and that is why I didn't need to send out a lot and your question was how much volume am I sending not how much can I send. A simple check of their website will show at least a million an hour or more.

    As far as being clear- if you recall you said "thanks anyway I just made my purchase" I assumed it was Sendsafe because your ips/server was windows based. I wished you luck and several times asked how you were doing on aim with no response.

    Regarding being upfront, I was totally upfront with the exact same offer that I just mentioned. I would like you to think about it and retract that statement. To further refresh your memory you said that you were conversing with crackp0t/John Farrell and I said he's a very knowledgeable guy and can help you with what's going on and what to do. Please don't say that I wasn't upfront you just had already made your decision and/or didn't listen.

    My offer still stands for anyone that wants to get into mailing with little upfront. Oh boy that bad word again.

    As for a kick in the balls - every day is a kick in the balls for mailers one way or another - and Good Luck to you!

     
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    sarcasm and petty bickering....it never gets old.


    oh wait.....


    YES IT DOES!

    :pcguru:
     
  15. chrisVoloMP

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    The VoloMP Sales guy here - Just wanted to make sure all was clear on my sales approach and honesty with prospective clients. Having mailed for many years myself I'm well aware of the constant challenges centered around delivery, inboxing, whitelisting. I'd like to make it abundantly clear I NEVER assure any clients delivery using the VoloMP mail platform or any platform for that matter.

    There's many variables OUTSIDE of the scope of the Mailing Platform that have to be in check to ensure a consistent, high-volume delivery. The software is merely one small piece of the ever-complicated mailing puzzle. While I typically see clients with IP allocations of this size doing a similar volume, it's no secret that the quality of data, existing IP reputation, and sending strategies will vary greatly from customer to customer.

    Perhaps this is just a misunderstanding. Best of luck Postmaster - always available to help get you going!

    And the skype conversation to quiet the wolves (name of involved party have been redacted)

    7/11/2012 1:04:22 PM] redacted_name: alright.. and the million dollar question....
    [7/11/2012 1:04:37 PM] redacted_name: can you assure me delivery to yahoo?
    [7/11/2012 1:04:39 PM] redacted_name: lol
    [7/11/2012 1:05:26 PM] redacted_name: the biggest hurdle i have in my mind is once i invest thousands of dollars before sending a single email...
    [7/11/2012 1:05:44 PM] redacted_name: will the mail actually get delivered as envisioned?
    [7/11/2012 1:07:17 PM] redacted_name: i fear spending $4k or $8k for ips alone... then finding out the whole thing won't work
    [7/11/2012 1:19:13 PM] Chris Doyle: sorry - im back - was on a call
    [7/11/2012 1:19:30 PM] Chris Doyle: I'll be dead honest with you - as any ESP should be.
    [7/11/2012 1:19:37 PM] Chris Doyle: No we cannot - and none of them can or should!
    [7/11/2012 1:19:55 PM] Chris Doyle: Right out of the starting gate with fresh IP's you'll deliver just fine
    [7/11/2012 1:20:11 PM] Chris Doyle: But Abaca (yahoos filtering tech) is a total bear
    [7/11/2012 1:20:26 PM] Chris Doyle: It's more about the data you're mailing TO than the IP's you're mailing from initially
    [7/11/2012 1:20:46 PM] Chris Doyle: That being said, we do have the technology squared away to put holds on IP's that are in jeopardy of being listed
    [7/11/2012 1:20:51 PM] Chris Doyle: We call it our intelligent backoff strategy
    [7/11/2012 1:21:06 PM] Chris Doyle: essentially we're analyzing the SMTP response codes for all major domains.
    [7/11/2012 1:21:36 PM] Chris Doyle: When Yahoo returns a TS02 for example we'll say STOP - and place the local and remote IP pair on hold for X amount of hours until it's safe to resume delivery on that IP
    [7/11/2012 1:21:49 PM] Chris Doyle: This does a very good job of preserving your IP space.
    [7/11/2012 1:22:15 PM] Chris Doyle: The downside of this is that your delivery speed will slow down because you essentially have a smaller pool of IP addresses available for delivery once you put some on hold
    [7/11/2012 1:22:53 PM] redacted_name: i see... how long does an ip sit for a ts02?
    [7/11/2012 1:24:35 PM] Chris Doyle: I believe we have the default rule to place it on hold for 3 hours - ill confirm with our tech though
    [7/11/2012 1:24:48 PM] Chris Doyle: we change it quite a bit
    [7/11/2012 1:25:06 PM] Chris Doyle: subsequent failures add more time to the holds as well
    [7/11/2012 1:27:42 PM] redacted_name: okay chris... i appreciate your time and honesty
     
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  16. roundabout

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    Thanks for the followup chris - I don't think any of us questioned you or Volo's ability to do it, just the OP's misunderstanding...
     
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    I want to thank you as well Chris - Just about cleared everything up.
     
  18. postmaster

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    Chris... Yes, everything you provided there is true. But you left out the email communication... let me add that for you.

    You said:

    "Regarding Delivery to yahoo: We have many clients with different setups for delivering to yahoo bulk folders. Typically for a volume of 5-10mm/day clients use somewhere between 6-8 /24's. Though, there are some exceptions for clients that have better/worse data. Data seems to be the biggest factor for delivering consistent volume to yahoo these days. Luckily, Volo does have some good tools built into the software to place IP's on hold prior to getting a TS03 error."

    Reading this, I got the strong impression that the volume questioned was "typical" with 6-8 /24's.

    And JPC... I don't know why you decided to hijack my thread when you should have come to me directly via private message, or aim. It seems you're trying to make me look bad because you said "jump" and then I didn't ask "how high?" I told you I was just getting back into the game after spending a couple years enjoying the fruits of labor. When we originally spoke, I HAD NO IDEA HOW DELIVERY WOULD GO. So I wanted to try what I WAS SUCCESSFULLY DOING BEFORE to test the waters for myself! I wanted to see first hand what I was dealing with. For you to act like I've wronged you in some way for the simple fact I didn't jump head-first into your venture with blind faith is silly.

    Anyway... I didn't intend to stir up trouble with my thread. I'm just looking for a solution. I'm trying to gather as much information as possible to make the right decision. Failure is not an option at this point, so I'm just being diligent.






     
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  19. roundabout

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    Postmaster.. you're among friends here.. nobody is trying to make you look bad, we're trying to save you from making a costly mistake without understanding all the facts.
     
  20. postmaster

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    Very good to know. Thank you. I was starting to feel a bit defensive for trying to weigh my options and get to the truth.

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